--- title: Helping Sells Radio | Podcast by ServiceRocket Media | Nils Vinje description: Nils Vinje | A confluence of software adoption, learning, and customer success. --- [![ServiceRocket logo - white](https://blog.servicerocket.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Blue%202020/ServiceRocket%20logo%20-%20white.png?width=81&height=53&name=ServiceRocket%20logo%20-%20white.png "ServiceRocket logo - white")](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts) ** # nils-vinje - Share: - [** ](http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/nils-vinje) - [** ](https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Cool&via=ServiceRocket&hashtags=Radio&url=https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/nils-vinje) - [** ](https://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=true&url=https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/nils-vinje) - [** ](mailto:?subject=Check%20it%20out&body=Hi%20guys,%20look%20at%20this%20https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/nils-vinje) [![HSR084NilsVinje](https://blog.servicerocket.com/hubfs/HSR084NilsVinje.png) ](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/084-nils-vinje-says-low-maturity-customers-need-you-to-do-a-lot-of-work.-be-ready-for-it) ## [Ep. 84 | Nils Vinje Says Low Maturity Customers Need You To Do A Lot Of Work. Be Ready for It.](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/084-nils-vinje-says-low-maturity-customers-need-you-to-do-a-lot-of-work.-be-ready-for-it) ** [Bill Cushard](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/author/bill-cushard) on ** Sep 7, 2018 10:30:00 AM ** [Customer Success](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/customer-success), [SaaS](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/saas), [Jason Lemkin](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/jason-lemkin), [Nils Vinje](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/nils-vinje) Nils Vinje, from Glide Consulting, just gave me a new perspective on customer success readiness at SaaS companies. Although Jason Lemkin says [customer success is a single digit hire](https://www.gainsight.com/blog/customer-success-single-digit-hire/), and he may be right most of the time....Nils says, "Not so fast." According to Nils, when to hire customer success depends on the maturity level of your customer. "It's wonderful to disrupt a market. However, it's also terrible to disrupt a market." Said another way, it's good to "have the first solution" to a problem because it's a greenfield opportunity. BUT. "If there has been no solution there prior, there is no ownership in that organization for that particular function. There are no processes. There are no people who run those processes. The customer will therefore need a lot more help than a customer success organization can or should provide.  [Read More](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/084-nils-vinje-says-low-maturity-customers-need-you-to-do-a-lot-of-work.-be-ready-for-it) [1](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/nils-vinje/page/1) ### Subscribe Here ### Tags/Categories - [Customer Success (43)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/customer-success) - [marketing (14)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/marketing) - [Customer Education (10)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/customer-education) - [Sales (8)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/sales) - [Product Management (6)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/product-management) - [Customer Experience (5)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/customer-experience) - [SaaS (5)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/saas) - [People (4)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/people) - [Gainsight (3)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/gainsight) - [Software (3)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/software) - [B2B (2)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/b2b) - [Company Founder (2)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/company-founder) - [Customer Relationships (2)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/customer-relationships) - [Expand Selling (2)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/expand-selling) - [Sales Team (2)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/sales-team) - [Salesperson (2)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/salesperson) - [Selling Process (2)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/selling-process) - [Software Adoption (2)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/software-adoption) - [Start-ups (2)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/start-ups) - [StartUps (2)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/startups) - [Storytelling (2)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/storytelling) - [#CustomerSuccess (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/customersuccess) - [Account based marketing (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/account-based-marketing) - [Allison Pickens (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/allison-pickens) - [Arjun Devgan (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/arjun-devgan) - [Best Practices (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/best-practices) - [Blitzscaling (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/blitzscaling) - [Building Customer Training (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/building-customer-training) - [BuildingConnected (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/buildingconnected) - [CSM (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/csm) - [Chris Yeh (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/chris-yeh) - [CloudSponge (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/cloudsponge) - [Consulting (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/consulting) - [Creativity (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/creativity) - [Data (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/data) - [Dustin DeVan (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/dustin-devan) - [Enterprise Social Networking (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/enterprise-social-networking) - [Evernote (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/evernote) - [GoodData (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/gooddata) - [HubSpot (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/hubspot) - [Jason Lemkin (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/jason-lemkin) - [Jay Acunzo (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/jay-acunzo) - [Jay Gibb (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/jay-gibb) - [Kristen Hayer (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/kristen-hayer) - [LMS (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/lms) - [Lead with a Story (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/lead-with-a-story) - [Learning (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/learning) - [Michael Redbord (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/michael-redbord) - [Nils Vinje (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/nils-vinje) - [Optimizely (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/optimizely) - [Outcomes (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/outcomes) - [Paul Smith (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/paul-smith) - [Percolate (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/percolate) - [Reid Hoffman (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/reid-hoffman) - [Sales Engineering (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/sales-engineering) - [Sales Funnel (1)](https://blog.servicerocket.com/podcasts/topic/sales-funnel) - [Sarah E. 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